Monday, May 01, 2006
nick: Bike ride 6th May
Well I planned a route which I think has a fair amount of off-road in it. It took about ten minutes to work out which way to go, and three hours to scan in the maps and join them together. There's a web page here including a link to a picture of the route (I've put red dots to indicate the way we're going).
I did a very rough distance estimate and it came out to 50km, which I can't believe is right, that's not much further than by road, but maybe Tim can run a spreadsheet on it and work out a more accurate value.
I'm assuming we're doing this next Saturday? So we need to sort out logistics. Steve will you be coming on Saturday or Friday? No problem if you want to come Friday and stay overnight, then be fresh for the ride. Tim, I'm assuming you can get here on the train, maybe bringing a bike? You're welcome to stay Friday night too or whatever suits.
If you want to ride one of my bikes (which I am not altogether convinced would be ideal) then I will probably need to do a bit of maintenance on it, so let me know asap.
- 7:16 pm
Comments:
Steve: Well done Nick for this (and for sending the CTC email). I currently plan to come down on the train Fridy night with my bike. I have to leave London before 16:45 so it could be interesting. To come in I have to arrive in London before 7am.
As for the logistics of the 3rd bike, nightmare. Unless you drive it down one night and we train down and all ride back. Of course it won't fit in/on Tim's car will it?
Tim: Good map.
Shame about the shortage of bikes. I'll get the kettle on then, ready for when you arrive?
Tim: Incidentally, the route looks pretty direct, not necessarily further than by road.
As for logistics, trains are no problem of course. That helps a lot?
nick: If we're going from NW->Netley (I sort of think of that as downhill, so assume it'll be easier), then Tim could come up on the train on Saturday or Friday. If Tim brings a bike then it'll be in the right place at the end of the cycle ride. If Tim wants to ride my bike then I we would end up with an extra bike in Netley, although it's getting on a bit so I could just abandon it there.
Tim: Well, I still haven't got a bike. And I'm sure that once you've got your spare all spruced up then you won't be wanting to bin it - there is a handy tip at Netley though :-)
Here's an alternative plan. I train up to you on Friday night for a lad's night in. We all train down to Netley in the morning, and after elevenses cycle back to NW. Then it's one last train home for me.
Although it's uphill a couple of small advantages are that (i) we'll have the sun behind us and (ii) although I'll be doing three train journeys just to borrow a rusty bike there is some entertainment of sorts between each leg.
Just a suggestion, though.
nick: sounds good to me, although it looks like a 1.5 hour train trip from Basinstoke to Netley on Sat am, and we will need to cycle there from my house, but it does mean everything ends up in the right place
nick: (I mean that on Sat am we'll need to cycle from my house to Basingstoke station).
Could go from Micheldever, but I think that's more connections and takes longer to get to Netley.
nick
Tim: Oh brilliant. For Saturday and Sunday:
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All lines will be closed all day in the Basingstoke area. No trains will run in the area bounded by Farnborough, Winchester, Andover, and Reading. Most trains due to pass through this area will be replaced by buses for part of their journey and may make additional stops with extended journey times. Many services will start from London Waterloo earlier than normal.
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For cycling we could work around this, somehow, but Steve's going to be stuffed for getting back to Luton.
nick: Well I could give Steve a lift to Reading station (assuming trains are running from there to London at the weekend).
For Basingstoke->Netley it's a bit more of a problem I guess....suggestions?
Tim: Ride to Winchester, I guess? How far is that?
Train it from there to Netley (or Botley, if it's quicker/easier).
Steve: Tim, your suggestion is a great one, I was wondering for a bit if you weren't that keen to ride it. We need to watch the 3rd quaatssiii don't we Friday night?
Is it feasible for me to get a return to Netley Abbey and use it to stop off at Basingstoke or do I need separate tickets?
Got Arcturus by ARC (Boddy/Shreeve) and it is live Hampshire Jam 2004 (did we see this one?). Good sequencer stuff - 3 tracks. The only thing I would say is that it's a bit too trad berlin EM and not experimental enough. I've got another DiN on eBay coming and 3 ordered from the US for $36 all-in. D's going to kill me.
Tim: I had to double-check, but no that was the Hampshire Jam we missed. (Airsculpture were on YET AGAIN, for one thing, also Free System Projekt who we'd already seen once).
Steve: I see. I have use of the car but was trying to avoid using it. I don't feel guilty if there are no flipping trains. No bikes allowed on replacement services that's for sure. So I will come in the car - it can carry 3 bikes so please work this into the equation if you like :) Not sure when I would get to Basingstoke if I drive, may take the PM off of arrive a bit later.
No need to stick to the rigour of the Basingstoke-Netley route with all of the travel hassle is there?
Tim: Irrelevant interjection:
Guess which of these tracks from the remastered Dziekuje Poland is a bonus track? No prizes, sorry.
A Katovice 26:22
B Warsaw 24:16
C The Midas Hip Hop Touch 25:15
D Lodz 20:59
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Steve: Well done Nick for this (and for sending the CTC email). I currently plan to come down on the train Fridy night with my bike. I have to leave London before 16:45 so it could be interesting. To come in I have to arrive in London before 7am.As for the logistics of the 3rd bike, nightmare. Unless you drive it down one night and we train down and all ride back. Of course it won't fit in/on Tim's car will it?
Tim: Good map.Shame about the shortage of bikes. I'll get the kettle on then, ready for when you arrive?
Tim: Incidentally, the route looks pretty direct, not necessarily further than by road.As for logistics, trains are no problem of course. That helps a lot?
nick: If we're going from NW->Netley (I sort of think of that as downhill, so assume it'll be easier), then Tim could come up on the train on Saturday or Friday. If Tim brings a bike then it'll be in the right place at the end of the cycle ride. If Tim wants to ride my bike then I we would end up with an extra bike in Netley, although it's getting on a bit so I could just abandon it there. Tim: Well, I still haven't got a bike. And I'm sure that once you've got your spare all spruced up then you won't be wanting to bin it - there is a handy tip at Netley though :-)Here's an alternative plan. I train up to you on Friday night for a lad's night in. We all train down to Netley in the morning, and after elevenses cycle back to NW. Then it's one last train home for me.
Although it's uphill a couple of small advantages are that (i) we'll have the sun behind us and (ii) although I'll be doing three train journeys just to borrow a rusty bike there is some entertainment of sorts between each leg.
Just a suggestion, though.
nick: sounds good to me, although it looks like a 1.5 hour train trip from Basinstoke to Netley on Sat am, and we will need to cycle there from my house, but it does mean everything ends up in the right place nick: (I mean that on Sat am we'll need to cycle from my house to Basingstoke station).Could go from Micheldever, but I think that's more connections and takes longer to get to Netley.
nick
Tim: Oh brilliant. For Saturday and Sunday:---
All lines will be closed all day in the Basingstoke area. No trains will run in the area bounded by Farnborough, Winchester, Andover, and Reading. Most trains due to pass through this area will be replaced by buses for part of their journey and may make additional stops with extended journey times. Many services will start from London Waterloo earlier than normal.
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For cycling we could work around this, somehow, but Steve's going to be stuffed for getting back to Luton.
nick: Well I could give Steve a lift to Reading station (assuming trains are running from there to London at the weekend).For Basingstoke->Netley it's a bit more of a problem I guess....suggestions?
Tim: Ride to Winchester, I guess? How far is that?Train it from there to Netley (or Botley, if it's quicker/easier).
Steve: Tim, your suggestion is a great one, I was wondering for a bit if you weren't that keen to ride it. We need to watch the 3rd quaatssiii don't we Friday night?Is it feasible for me to get a return to Netley Abbey and use it to stop off at Basingstoke or do I need separate tickets?
Got Arcturus by ARC (Boddy/Shreeve) and it is live Hampshire Jam 2004 (did we see this one?). Good sequencer stuff - 3 tracks. The only thing I would say is that it's a bit too trad berlin EM and not experimental enough. I've got another DiN on eBay coming and 3 ordered from the US for $36 all-in. D's going to kill me.
Tim: I had to double-check, but no that was the Hampshire Jam we missed. (Airsculpture were on YET AGAIN, for one thing, also Free System Projekt who we'd already seen once). Steve: I see. I have use of the car but was trying to avoid using it. I don't feel guilty if there are no flipping trains. No bikes allowed on replacement services that's for sure. So I will come in the car - it can carry 3 bikes so please work this into the equation if you like :) Not sure when I would get to Basingstoke if I drive, may take the PM off of arrive a bit later.No need to stick to the rigour of the Basingstoke-Netley route with all of the travel hassle is there?
Tim: Irrelevant interjection:Guess which of these tracks from the remastered Dziekuje Poland is a bonus track? No prizes, sorry.
A Katovice 26:22
B Warsaw 24:16
C The Midas Hip Hop Touch 25:15
D Lodz 20:59
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